A suggestion for all those wishing to lose weight permanently - Page 2

hoverfly · 01-14-2012, 05:52 PM

TD, if you like, have a look at this recently updated page on Wiki, I've made some changes to the page only a couple of days ago to reflect the availability of all synthetic cannabiods currently used in the treatment of various disorders.

Cannabinoid - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

It does now have the advantage to have all the relevant trade names added, making it easier to speak to your MD about any medication rather the having to rely on him going on an internet search first, which most of them appear unwilling to do in the first place.

I do hope that either this or any other treatment will bring you the relief that you are seeking.

At the risk of having someone shout out 'don't take drugs' at me again, cannabis is amongst the oldest known medicinal drugs in use on the planet. Its benefits are too numerous to mention and its use as a recreational drug is clouded by mostly misinformation, be it desired or unintentional. Lucky for those living in a more educated state where medicinal marihuana is available on a doctors note.

But nobody in the pharmaceutical industry wants that at the end of the day. What would the world be coming to if everybody grew an aspirin tree (I do know there is no such thing, btw) in their backgarden. LOL. Much better to grow the stuff for next to nothing, extract the active ingredients and let the refined product hit the market in a fancy bottle at probably 20,000% profit.

Ah, well, better not get started.

hoverfly · 01-14-2012, 06:25 PM

A final note on the subject:

TD, you might find this website of interest.

International Association for Cannabis as Medicine

This is not a bunch of stoned hippies advocating the use of illicit drugs but high ranking scientist working in field research for the benefit of mankind. They too may prove helpful to anybody seeking advise on the medicinal properties of cannabis, be it on prescription, ie. over the counter of your local chemist or the less legal approach, though they will not give you the phone number of your resident dealer. LOL

hoverfly · 01-15-2012, 08:42 AM

Take your time, those pages and the IACM website are unlikely to disappear bey next week.

And I think I ought to apologise, again, for hijacking my own thread. It was after all, about losing weight and then started drifting off all over the place. We/I need to stick to the topics at hand a little more I guess.

hoverfly · 01-17-2012, 10:16 PM

I know, it's called 'lack of discipline'. LOL. That finger was pointing at me anyway.

RagnarV · 01-18-2012, 12:37 PM

For the best weed avoid Amsterdam but try Maastricht. There's a barge tied up on the river on the left bank in the centre of town called "Smokey." You'll have a good time in town too. (By the way, I've never smoked a cigarette in all my life).

hoverfly · 01-24-2012, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by tinydick4u

Me either.the smell makes me feel sick at my stomach.

Well, looks like I'll have to smoke myself into an early grave for both of you then. LOL

Also, this is highly unsociable, isn't it? Leaving me alone having to pay for the countries defict through the tax on baccy.

jobleau · 01-24-2012, 12:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hoverfly

Well, looks like I'll have to smoke myself into an early grave for both of you then. LOL

Also, this is highly unsociable, isn't it? Leaving me alone having to pay for the countries defict through the tax on baccy.

Don't worry man. You're not alone contributing. I pay my unfair share of taxes too.

hoverfly · 01-25-2012, 04:22 PM

I have no idea what sort of prices you would be talking about but a pouch of tobacco, 50 grams, just under 2 ounces in the UK, Essex anyway, will set you back about 15GBP or 23.50 US-$.

A packet of say Marlboro, maybe that is something more familiar will go for around 7GBP or just under 11 US-$.

Are you in shock yet?

hoverfly · 01-25-2012, 09:47 PM

I forgot, you did mention that you have been a life long non-smoker. Best way to be, I guess.

That being said, I think it's time to light up.

I call that 'socially acceptable' early death. LOL

hoverfly · 01-28-2012, 10:19 AM

Prison? That's plain outrageous. Here you are more likely to have it confiscated and get slapped on the wrist. Unless that is, you are caught near a school or nursery school, in that case they will cut your balls of. Too many too young children into it these days and that's not the way to start your school day is it.

The UK on the whole may have upgraded cannabis to a class 'B' drug again but that's not to say that your average copper will actually charge you with anything. He's more likely to lecture you on the importance of adhering to the law then nick you.

A friend of mine got busted last year. 60 plants in his garden and another 60 inside in a hydroponic setup. He was 60 when it happened and he claimed and rightly so, that it was purely for his own consumption and to relief some of the chronic pain he's been suffering from in his legs and lower back. He was never charged.

Of course, this is all very much hit and miss these days. If you come across a really obedient copper, yes, he could charge you with possession or intent to supply if things came to a head but most often people are being cautioned and given a slap on the wrist.

My wife has been smoking for almost 20 years now, she is suffering from a massive degenerative spinal condition, restless legs syndrome and infrequent migraines. All hospitals in Germany had one brilliant solution to the problem. Morphine.

Far out and groovy. What a brilliant idea. She was weighing in at less then 36 kilos by the time she told her doctor to go and stick the morphine where the sun doesn't shine and demanded that she be prescribed Sativex instead of a whole host of chemical drugs that she then needed more drugs for to alleviate all the side effects, like insomnia, sickness and nausea.

Have you ever lived with someone undertaking a morphine withdrawal? Let me tell you, not a pretty sight, not a pretty sight at all. I used to have to change the bed linen up to three times a night because she would have sweated through it to such an extent that it was impossible to sleep in it any more. Oh, involuntary muscle spasms, now that's a nice one too. She'd lie on the bed and all of a sudden her muscles would violently contract, making her jump several inches high off the matress. Yes, the delights of morphine.

The funniest thing was when she told the doctor that she had been smoking again and how much it did to relieve all those symptoms. He literally chased us out of his office screaming and shouting abuse at us 'drug addicts' and the like. Nice one, that's what they tought you at university?

It gets better still, though. Not 6 month later he was arrested for posession of cocaine and hoarding a host of pharmaceuticals in his house and had his license revoked. Serves him right the bastard. LOL

Finally, a friend of mine who was a doctor of internal medicine was prepared to write the prescription for Sativex and life became a lot less troublesome for all of us. After all, there you are, paying tons of money into a private medical insurance but when it came to prescribing a naturally produced harmless medication, there are not withdrawal symptoms beyond being a little on edge for about 4-5 days, when you then have to resort to buying from some mafosi.

Ridiculous, absolutely ridiculous. Time to make this available to people like they have done across a lot of countries in Europe and of course in the US.

01-14-2012, 05:52 PM	#11
hoverfly Tiny Dick Extraordinaire Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: East of England Posts: 1,567	TD, if you like, have a look at this recently updated page on Wiki, I've made some changes to the page only a couple of days ago to reflect the availability of all synthetic cannabiods currently used in the treatment of various disorders. Cannabinoid - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia It does now have the advantage to have all the relevant trade names added, making it easier to speak to your MD about any medication rather the having to rely on him going on an internet search first, which most of them appear unwilling to do in the first place. I do hope that either this or any other treatment will bring you the relief that you are seeking. At the risk of having someone shout out 'don't take drugs' at me again, cannabis is amongst the oldest known medicinal drugs in use on the planet. Its benefits are too numerous to mention and its use as a recreational drug is clouded by mostly misinformation, be it desired or unintentional. Lucky for those living in a more educated state where medicinal marihuana is available on a doctors note. But nobody in the pharmaceutical industry wants that at the end of the day. What would the world be coming to if everybody grew an aspirin tree (I do know there is no such thing, btw) in their backgarden. LOL. Much better to grow the stuff for next to nothing, extract the active ingredients and let the refined product hit the market in a fancy bottle at probably 20,000% profit. Ah, well, better not get started. __________________ Feeling a little peckish? Visit The Official Food Porn Thread Click here if you need help uploading pictures. Guide to Uploading and Managing your Attachments Click here if you need to contact the forum staff. List of Forum Staff

01-14-2012, 06:25 PM	#12
hoverfly Tiny Dick Extraordinaire Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: East of England Posts: 1,567	A final note on the subject: TD, you might find this website of interest. International Association for Cannabis as Medicine This is not a bunch of stoned hippies advocating the use of illicit drugs but high ranking scientist working in field research for the benefit of mankind. They too may prove helpful to anybody seeking advise on the medicinal properties of cannabis, be it on prescription, ie. over the counter of your local chemist or the less legal approach, though they will not give you the phone number of your resident dealer. LOL __________________ Feeling a little peckish? Visit The Official Food Porn Thread Click here if you need help uploading pictures. Guide to Uploading and Managing your Attachments Click here if you need to contact the forum staff. List of Forum Staff

01-15-2012, 08:42 AM	#13
hoverfly Tiny Dick Extraordinaire Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: East of England Posts: 1,567	Take your time, those pages and the IACM website are unlikely to disappear bey next week. And I think I ought to apologise, again, for hijacking my own thread. It was after all, about losing weight and then started drifting off all over the place. We/I need to stick to the topics at hand a little more I guess. __________________ Feeling a little peckish? Visit The Official Food Porn Thread Click here if you need help uploading pictures. Guide to Uploading and Managing your Attachments Click here if you need to contact the forum staff. List of Forum Staff Last edited by hoverfly; 01-17-2012 at 10:15 PM.

01-17-2012, 10:16 PM	#14
hoverfly Tiny Dick Extraordinaire Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: East of England Posts: 1,567	I know, it's called 'lack of discipline'. LOL. That finger was pointing at me anyway. __________________ Feeling a little peckish? Visit The Official Food Porn Thread Click here if you need help uploading pictures. Guide to Uploading and Managing your Attachments Click here if you need to contact the forum staff. List of Forum Staff

01-25-2012, 04:22 PM	#18
hoverfly Tiny Dick Extraordinaire Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: East of England Posts: 1,567	I have no idea what sort of prices you would be talking about but a pouch of tobacco, 50 grams, just under 2 ounces in the UK, Essex anyway, will set you back about 15GBP or 23.50 US-$. A packet of say Marlboro, maybe that is something more familiar will go for around 7GBP or just under 11 US-$. Are you in shock yet? __________________ Feeling a little peckish? Visit The Official Food Porn Thread Click here if you need help uploading pictures. Guide to Uploading and Managing your Attachments Click here if you need to contact the forum staff. List of Forum Staff

01-18-2012, 12:37 PM	#15
RagnarV Tiny Dick Expert Join Date: Dec 2010 Posts: 260	For the best weed avoid Amsterdam but try Maastricht. There's a barge tied up on the river on the left bank in the centre of town called "Smokey." You'll have a good time in town too. (By the way, I've never smoked a cigarette in all my life).

01-25-2012, 09:47 PM	#19
hoverfly Tiny Dick Extraordinaire Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: East of England Posts: 1,567	I forgot, you did mention that you have been a life long non-smoker. Best way to be, I guess. That being said, I think it's time to light up. I call that 'socially acceptable' early death. LOL __________________ Feeling a little peckish? Visit The Official Food Porn Thread Click here if you need help uploading pictures. Guide to Uploading and Managing your Attachments Click here if you need to contact the forum staff. List of Forum Staff

01-28-2012, 10:19 AM	#20
hoverfly Tiny Dick Extraordinaire Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: East of England Posts: 1,567	Prison? That's plain outrageous. Here you are more likely to have it confiscated and get slapped on the wrist. Unless that is, you are caught near a school or nursery school, in that case they will cut your balls of. Too many too young children into it these days and that's not the way to start your school day is it. The UK on the whole may have upgraded cannabis to a class 'B' drug again but that's not to say that your average copper will actually charge you with anything. He's more likely to lecture you on the importance of adhering to the law then nick you. A friend of mine got busted last year. 60 plants in his garden and another 60 inside in a hydroponic setup. He was 60 when it happened and he claimed and rightly so, that it was purely for his own consumption and to relief some of the chronic pain he's been suffering from in his legs and lower back. He was never charged. Of course, this is all very much hit and miss these days. If you come across a really obedient copper, yes, he could charge you with possession or intent to supply if things came to a head but most often people are being cautioned and given a slap on the wrist. My wife has been smoking for almost 20 years now, she is suffering from a massive degenerative spinal condition, restless legs syndrome and infrequent migraines. All hospitals in Germany had one brilliant solution to the problem. Morphine. Far out and groovy. What a brilliant idea. She was weighing in at less then 36 kilos by the time she told her doctor to go and stick the morphine where the sun doesn't shine and demanded that she be prescribed Sativex instead of a whole host of chemical drugs that she then needed more drugs for to alleviate all the side effects, like insomnia, sickness and nausea. Have you ever lived with someone undertaking a morphine withdrawal? Let me tell you, not a pretty sight, not a pretty sight at all. I used to have to change the bed linen up to three times a night because she would have sweated through it to such an extent that it was impossible to sleep in it any more. Oh, involuntary muscle spasms, now that's a nice one too. She'd lie on the bed and all of a sudden her muscles would violently contract, making her jump several inches high off the matress. Yes, the delights of morphine. The funniest thing was when she told the doctor that she had been smoking again and how much it did to relieve all those symptoms. He literally chased us out of his office screaming and shouting abuse at us 'drug addicts' and the like. Nice one, that's what they tought you at university? It gets better still, though. Not 6 month later he was arrested for posession of cocaine and hoarding a host of pharmaceuticals in his house and had his license revoked. Serves him right the bastard. LOL Finally, a friend of mine who was a doctor of internal medicine was prepared to write the prescription for Sativex and life became a lot less troublesome for all of us. After all, there you are, paying tons of money into a private medical insurance but when it came to prescribing a naturally produced harmless medication, there are not withdrawal symptoms beyond being a little on edge for about 4-5 days, when you then have to resort to buying from some mafosi. Ridiculous, absolutely ridiculous. Time to make this available to people like they have done across a lot of countries in Europe and of course in the US. __________________ Feeling a little peckish? Visit The Official Food Porn Thread Click here if you need help uploading pictures. Guide to Uploading and Managing your Attachments Click here if you need to contact the forum staff. List of Forum Staff